I think this is a generational cycle. Almost like most older generations fear the changes they see in younger ones. But forgetting that their own older generation did the exact same thing. Beyond that the tendency of people in this age to essentialize generations and overgeneralizing attributes to all constituencies of that generation. I. E. Just another expression of humanities tendency to categorize and essentialize small differences to create overinflated contrast between groups to create another us vs them dynamic. The older vs younger. Nowadays they make it even worse by giving generations a label so they can point fingers and blame groups for their ills or point to behaviors they see with some and create some collective lack of understanding. This creates some nice certainties in life where there are none.
I mean that this fear mongering is also an expression of this generational almost deliberate misunderstanding, and scientists are not an exception here. More and more I get the sense that scientists are just humans and we can't expect them to not show all the tendencies of being human.
Thanks, Mike, for a much needed, more objective analysis of this current moral morass that Haidt and others add to, the better to sell their hip-boots for.
Let us go upstream to the farthest point which is PARENTARCHY, that is the origin of Human Violence to self and others.
I consider this is the invisble “ELEPHANT IN THE WOMB” every so-called adult stares at but refuses to acknowledge. Richard Farson, Birthrights:
“A common error made by children reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag is, ‘. . . one nation, under God, invisible . . .’ There is truth in the error. To them the nation is indeed invisible. Excluded from almost every area of life in America, they have no opportunity to see it. Moreover, children are invisible to the nation. Segregated, ignored, impotent. Our world is not a good place for children. Every institution in our society severely discriminates against them. We all come to feel that it is either natural or necessary to cooperate in that discrimination. Unconsciously, we carry out the will of a society which holds a limited and demeaned view of children and which refuses to recognize their right to full humanity.”
I invite you to use PARENTARCHY to go most upstream and begin to get the attention of those still asleep in the “Nightmare of History” Lloyd deMause calls Humanity’s horrible heritage of Child Abuse/Neglect.
As happened in the 1800s when Slavery finally became morally repugnant to a majority, I believe will happen with PARENTARCY and then Statism—both will end up in the trash bin of history along with Slavery.
I hope you and your readers will join us this Sat 9pm and Sunday 9am NZ time:
Free Friends Forum 29 PARENTARCHY—The Elephant in the Womb—Personified
A Response to Tereza Coraggio’s Substack “Is Parenting an Abuse of Power?” with three daughters as “Machiavellian midgets”
“[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances. They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.
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Letter in Town and Country magazine republished in Paris Fashion: A Cultural History, 1771
“The free access which many young people have to romances, novels, and plays has poisoned the mind and corrupted the morals of many a promising youth…”
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The Conduct of Young People, Hull Daily Mail, 1925
“We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.”
There’s a new documentary you might be interested in. It’s called Swiped: The School That Banned Smartphones. It follows a group of 12-year-olds who give up their smartphones for 21 days.
I think this is a generational cycle. Almost like most older generations fear the changes they see in younger ones. But forgetting that their own older generation did the exact same thing. Beyond that the tendency of people in this age to essentialize generations and overgeneralizing attributes to all constituencies of that generation. I. E. Just another expression of humanities tendency to categorize and essentialize small differences to create overinflated contrast between groups to create another us vs them dynamic. The older vs younger. Nowadays they make it even worse by giving generations a label so they can point fingers and blame groups for their ills or point to behaviors they see with some and create some collective lack of understanding. This creates some nice certainties in life where there are none.
I mean that this fear mongering is also an expression of this generational almost deliberate misunderstanding, and scientists are not an exception here. More and more I get the sense that scientists are just humans and we can't expect them to not show all the tendencies of being human.
I suggest in the next post to look at EU/UK/AU/NZ and see if the "mental health crisis"has struck even there
Thanks, Mike, for a much needed, more objective analysis of this current moral morass that Haidt and others add to, the better to sell their hip-boots for.
Let us go upstream to the farthest point which is PARENTARCHY, that is the origin of Human Violence to self and others.
I consider this is the invisble “ELEPHANT IN THE WOMB” every so-called adult stares at but refuses to acknowledge. Richard Farson, Birthrights:
“A common error made by children reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag is, ‘. . . one nation, under God, invisible . . .’ There is truth in the error. To them the nation is indeed invisible. Excluded from almost every area of life in America, they have no opportunity to see it. Moreover, children are invisible to the nation. Segregated, ignored, impotent. Our world is not a good place for children. Every institution in our society severely discriminates against them. We all come to feel that it is either natural or necessary to cooperate in that discrimination. Unconsciously, we carry out the will of a society which holds a limited and demeaned view of children and which refuses to recognize their right to full humanity.”
I invite you to use PARENTARCHY to go most upstream and begin to get the attention of those still asleep in the “Nightmare of History” Lloyd deMause calls Humanity’s horrible heritage of Child Abuse/Neglect.
As happened in the 1800s when Slavery finally became morally repugnant to a majority, I believe will happen with PARENTARCY and then Statism—both will end up in the trash bin of history along with Slavery.
I hope you and your readers will join us this Sat 9pm and Sunday 9am NZ time:
Free Friends Forum 29 PARENTARCHY—The Elephant in the Womb—Personified
A Response to Tereza Coraggio’s Substack “Is Parenting an Abuse of Power?” with three daughters as “Machiavellian midgets”
https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/free-friends-forum-29-parentarchythe
Here is a reminder about those immoral youngsters:
THE 2,500-YEAR-OLD HISTORY OF ADULTS BLAMING THE YOUNGER GENERATION. History Hustle, Joe Gillard, April 17, 2018
https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
Rhetoric, Aristotle, 4th Century BC
“[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances. They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.
----
Letter in Town and Country magazine republished in Paris Fashion: A Cultural History, 1771
“The free access which many young people have to romances, novels, and plays has poisoned the mind and corrupted the morals of many a promising youth…”
----
The Conduct of Young People, Hull Daily Mail, 1925
“We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.”
Another excellent rejoinder.
There’s a new documentary you might be interested in. It’s called Swiped: The School That Banned Smartphones. It follows a group of 12-year-olds who give up their smartphones for 21 days.
Thanks! Will take a look.
Amen. Well said as usual, Mike!