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Mike Males's avatar

Very limited and largely useless. Just as in the US, parents' deadly drug abuse has skyrocketed in the UK, Canada, and Australia, along with wider, related family- and community-level crises these trends bring. Yet, the Haidts in this discussion can't deal with those realities teens themselves have no choice but to face (even though I've repeatedly informed him of them, along with sources).

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"Second, because teen suicide and self-destruction are rare, fixating on percentage changes is misleading. It is meaningless to compare the PERCENT change in suicides for 10-14-year-old girls (who had 50 suicides a year) with, say, those of their mothers age 40-44 (900 suicides a year) or fathers age 40-44 (2,800). "

I want to quibble about this one point. Sometimes percentage change is most appropriate, sometimes absolute change is. It all depends on what one is concerned about. If you are focused on the well-being of teens, when death is supposed to be rare (at least actuarially), then percentage change is absolutely a valid thing to be concerned about. Now if you are trying to compare one age group to another, as you do in this example, and they have wildly different base rates, then yes, I would agree that percentage change to compare the two is inappropriate.

That said, this is a great article.

"America’s authorities steadfastly refuse to admit that the appalling 785,000 parent-age self-destructive deaths during this period (equal to the disappearance of every middle-aged adult in a city of 2 million people), plus the millions of homes affected by lesser outcomes, could possibly be making teens more depressed. They have not even developed comprehensive measures to assess the impact of grownups’ self-destruction on teens."

The point you make about the choice by authorities to ignore the impact that the crisis of self-destructive deaths of parents, guardians, and caregivers may have on teens is an excellent one. Our concern for the well-being of teens should extend far beyond whether or not they choose suicide.

"The anti-teen, anti-social-media crusade is an escapist stampede in the destructive American tradition that make us the Western world’s most dangerous society by far. It has nothing to do with “protecting children.” Teenagers are right to find today’s situation more depressing and anxiety-causing."

Well said.

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