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Alexa's avatar

Has anyone followed the money with Haidt? I usually wouldn’t put much weight on funding sources of a famous pop-pseudoscience author, but his thesis just seems to every so perfectly manufacture consent for these “internet safety” bills that the world’s governments love so much. He also just exudes a puritanical undertone that tries to cover up with “progressive” sounding language. It is all just so convenient that everything that spills out of his mouth continues to prop on the rugged individualism that our late-stage capitalism system requires for fuel.

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Unfortunately I read the DAWN report. The five million number is an extrapolation, not actual visits, however there were two footnotes:

- DAWN does not collect identifiable information from ED visits, so an individual with multiple drug-related ED visits was

counted as a separate visit each time.

- DAWN has a limited sample size with 60 hospitals reporting.

This article implies that 5+M people went to ED - “the entire population of state of North Carolina”. No. A fraction of the population of NC.

In SF we have a phenomenon called “frequent fliers”, where a single person can have 20-50 visits per year.

Top 1-5% of patients create 20-40% of all visits particularly in large urban hospitals; the actual number of people may be drastically reduced. Who knows?

If the hospital sample base were skewed to large urban hospitals, the % of frequent fliers might lower the total individual number drastically. Who knows?

There’s a more interesting problem than suicide rate people aged 45-64 - (I dont know anyone my age group who has teenage children BTW. Not sure why that’s relevant to the thesis)

The new statistical problem which is occurring is parental supervision failure.

Pre-social media, when children physically socialized, there were generally adults from the community nearby. At each other’s houses, school, malls, sports, you name it. Bad actors and bad behaviors would be short circuited. With each additional parents and child in a community parental burden went down.

After social media, parental time supervising children goes up - drastically. In social media space, adults are not present, and innumerable bad behaviors and bad actors surface. In fact, burden goes up exponentially because of network effects.

Each parent has intense burden supervising a child, and attempting to do so across all identities and all platforms.

Not possible. Parents burn out, and children are exposed to a universe of bad actors.

Considered that fact?

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